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MG01MusicGOAT Index

The short answer

Are Fall Out Boy greater than Kiss?

Not by the default All-Time score: Kiss leads by 0.3 points.

Quick verdict

Not by default

Kiss opens with a 0.3-point lead in the all-time score.

Fall Out Boy

86.7

Kiss

87.0

Fall Out Boy

#191 all-time · Classification under review

All-time score86.7

Fall Out Boy appears in the provisional Music GOAT Index. Ranking scores remain visible while biographical and classification details are under review.

Opening verdict

Kiss

Leads by 0.3 points

Leads

Kiss

#183 all-time · Classification under review

All-time score87.0

Kiss appears in the provisional Music GOAT Index. Ranking scores remain visible while biographical and classification details are under review.

The plain case

Why the answer lands here

Not by the default All-Time score: Kiss leads by 0.3 points. The result is still open to argument: inspect the full breakdown, move the weights and see whether it survives your version of greatness.

Biggest category edge

Current

Kiss

owns a 4.0-point edge here

4.0

The current leader at a Current weight of 15.0% is Kiss. Changing Current from 15.0% to 9.3% flips the lead to Fall Out Boy; all other unlocked weights are rebalanced proportionally to keep the total at 100%.

Kiss leads Fall Out Boy by 0.3 points in All-Time Ranking.

Fall Out Boy

Classification under review

Scoring result86.7

Wins 2 of 6 active categories · 1 level

Current margin

0.3

Kiss leads this version.

Current leader

Kiss

Classification under review

Scoring result87.0

Wins 3 of 6 active categories · 1 level

The verdict

Kiss wins this scorecard.

The edge is 0.3 points in All-Time Ranking. Fall Out Boy still has category wins worth arguing below.

The strongest weighted drivers for Kiss are Current (4.0 raw gap at 15% weight). 2 zero-weight context lenses are outside this verdict.

All-time list
MGI model 3.3.0July 2026 · MGI v3.3 archive6 factors counted2 context lenses

Commercial, Live are outside this verdict. Unavailable values stay N/A and are never treated as zero.

The current leader at a Current weight of 15.0% is Kiss. Changing Current from 15.0% to 9.3% flips the lead to Fall Out Boy; all other unlocked weights are rebalanced proportionally to keep the total at 100%.

Verdict logicWhy this verdict: KissAll-time list: Public attention, Influence, Peak · 0.3 pts from Fall Out Boy
All-time listNot counted here: Commercial + LiveUnavailable: Commercial + Live

Kiss lands here because Public attention, Influence and Peak do most of the work in this view. Commercial and Live are unavailable until reviewed evidence exists and cannot change this verdict.

Kiss sits 0.3 points from Fall Out Boy in this scorecard; the next move would most likely come through Longevity and Catalog. Commercial and Live remain unavailable until reviewed evidence exists; this verdict is not recalculated with hidden replacement values.

What helps

Public attention20.9% of this score
Public attention score91.0
Provisional evidenceDerived evidence · 1/5 fieldsModel confidence highWeight 20

Provisional score retained from the published edition. Supporting narrative is withheld while classification and source context are reviewed.

Influence20.2% of this score
Influence score88.0
Provisional evidenceEditorial judgment · 1/5 fieldsModel confidence highWeight 20

Provisional score retained from the published edition. Supporting narrative is withheld while classification and source context are reviewed.

Peak15% of this score
Peak score87.0
Provisional evidenceEditorial judgment · 1/5 fieldsModel confidence highWeight 15

Provisional score retained from the published edition. Supporting narrative is withheld while classification and source context are reviewed.

What could move it

Longevity and Catalog are the softest scoring factors; movement there matters most near Fall Out Boy.

More checking on Public attention, Influence and Peak would improve confidence before it changes the public score.

Commercial and Live remain unavailable until reviewed observation records pass; no alternate rank is published.

What decided it

The strongest weighted gaps

Current+0.6 pts

4.0 raw gap × 15% weight · edge to Kiss

Longevity+0.5 pts

3.0 raw gap × 15% weight · edge to Fall Out Boy

Public attention+0.2 pts

1.0 raw gap × 20% weight · edge to Fall Out Boy

Active score parts

What decides this verdict

2-3 · 1 level
CurrentShort-window current-interest context derived from a dated Wikimedia Pageviews observation; it is not listening, sales or artistic quality.Open Kiss profile
Fall Out Boy81.0
Kiss85.0
LongevityActive years, persistence and legacy after the first peak.Open Fall Out Boy profile
Fall Out Boy87.0
Kiss84.0
CatalogDepth, spread and durability of the catalog.Open Kiss profile
Fall Out Boy84.0
Kiss85.0
PeakHow dominant the strongest era felt relative to peers.Open Kiss profile
Fall Out Boy86.0
Kiss87.0
Public attentionLong-horizon editorial cultural-footprint judgment. The frozen v3.3 compatibility score historically used a retired short-window Wikimedia Pageviews proxy; it remains provisional until replaced in a reviewed edition.Open Fall Out Boy profile
Fall Out Boy92.0
Kiss91.0
InfluenceCurated cultural and peer influence tier.Level
Fall Out Boy88.0
Kiss88.0

Context only · zero weight

Useful context, outside this verdict

These gaps are visible for the debate, but they do not count until you raise their sliders or choose another view.

CommercialCommercial tier, sales evidence, certifications and scale.Not comparable
Fall Out BoyN/A
KissN/A
LiveLive/touring reputation and durable concert draw.Not comparable
Fall Out BoyN/A
KissN/A

Keep arguing

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FAQ

Fall Out Boy vs Kiss questions

Fall Out Boy or Kiss: who leads the All-Time score?

Not by the default All-Time score: Kiss leads by 0.3 points. The published score is 86.7 vs 87.0; unavailable values remain N/A and are never scored as zero.

What is the biggest active category edge in Fall Out Boy vs Kiss?

Current is the biggest available active edge, with a 4.0-point gap for Kiss.

Can the answer change?

Yes, when you change available score parts. A formula that gives positive weight to unavailable Commercial or Live evidence is rejected rather than silently rewritten.

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