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MG01MusicGOAT Index

The short answer

Are The Stone Roses greater than The Verve?

Yes: The Stone Roses leads by <0.1 points.

Quick verdict

Yes

The Stone Roses opens with a <0.1-point lead in the all-time score.

The Stone Roses

71.50

The Verve

71.45

Leads

The Stone Roses

#919 all-time · Classification under review

All-time score71.50

The Stone Roses appears in the provisional Music GOAT Index. Ranking scores remain visible while biographical and classification details are under review.

Opening verdict

The Stone Roses

Leads by <0.1 points

The Verve

#923 all-time · Classification under review

All-time score71.45

The Verve appears in the provisional Music GOAT Index. Ranking scores remain visible while biographical and classification details are under review.

The plain case

Why the answer lands here

Yes: The Stone Roses leads by <0.1 points. The result is still open to argument: inspect the full breakdown, move the weights and see whether it survives your version of greatness.

Biggest category edge

Public attention

The Stone Roses

owns a 1.0-point edge here

1.0

The current leader at a Current weight of 15.0% is The Stone Roses. Changing Current from 15.0% to 19.1% flips the lead to The Verve; all other unlocked weights are rebalanced proportionally to keep the total at 100%.

The Stone Roses leads The Verve by <0.1 points in All-Time Ranking.

Current leader

The Stone Roses

Classification under review

Scoring result71.50

Wins 1 of 6 active categories · 4 level

Current margin

<0.1

The Stone Roses leads this version.

Unrounded model edge · extra score precision shown

The Verve

Classification under review

Scoring result71.45

Wins 1 of 6 active categories · 4 level

The verdict

The Stone Roses wins this scorecard.

The edge is <0.1 points in All-Time Ranking. The Verve still has category wins worth arguing below.

The strongest weighted drivers for The Stone Roses are Public attention (1.0 raw gap at 20% weight). 2 zero-weight context lenses are outside this verdict.

All-time list
MGI model 3.3.0July 2026 · MGI v3.3 archive6 factors counted2 context lenses

Commercial, Live are outside this verdict. Unavailable values stay N/A and are never treated as zero.

The current leader at a Current weight of 15.0% is The Stone Roses. Changing Current from 15.0% to 19.1% flips the lead to The Verve; all other unlocked weights are rebalanced proportionally to keep the total at 100%.

Verdict logicWhy this verdict: The Stone RosesAll-time list: Influence, Public attention, Current · <0.1 pts from The Verve
All-time listNot counted here: Commercial + LiveUnavailable: Commercial + Live

The Stone Roses lands here because Influence, Public attention and Current do most of the work in this view. Commercial and Live are unavailable until reviewed evidence exists and cannot change this verdict.

The Stone Roses sits <0.1 points from The Verve in this scorecard; the next move would most likely come through Catalog and Public attention. Commercial and Live remain unavailable until reviewed evidence exists; this verdict is not recalculated with hidden replacement values.

What helps

Influence20.1% of this score
Influence score72.0
Provisional evidenceEditorial judgment · 1/5 fieldsModel confidence highWeight 20

Provisional score retained from the published edition. Supporting narrative is withheld while classification and source context are reviewed.

Public attention19.9% of this score
Public attention score71.0
Provisional evidenceDerived evidence · 1/5 fieldsModel confidence highWeight 20

Provisional score retained from the published edition. Supporting narrative is withheld while classification and source context are reviewed.

Current15.3% of this score
Current score73.0
Provisional evidenceDerived evidence · 3/6 fieldsModel confidence highWeight 15

Provisional score retained from the published edition. Supporting narrative is withheld while classification and source context are reviewed.

What could move it

Catalog and Public attention are the softest scoring factors; movement there matters most near The Verve.

More checking on Influence, Public attention and Peak would improve confidence before it changes the public score.

Commercial and Live remain unavailable until reviewed observation records pass; no alternate rank is published.

What decided it

The strongest weighted gaps

Public attention+0.2 pts

1.0 raw gap × 20% weight · edge to The Stone Roses

Current+0.1 pts

1.0 raw gap × 15% weight · edge to The Verve

Active score parts

What decides this verdict

1-1 · 4 level
CurrentShort-window current-interest context derived from a dated Wikimedia Pageviews observation; it is not listening, sales or artistic quality.Open The Verve profile
The Stone Roses73.0
The Verve74.0
Public attentionLong-horizon editorial cultural-footprint judgment. The frozen v3.3 compatibility score historically used a retired short-window Wikimedia Pageviews proxy; it remains provisional until replaced in a reviewed edition.Open The Stone Roses profile
The Stone Roses71.0
The Verve70.0
CatalogDepth, spread and durability of the catalog.Level
The Stone Roses68.0
The Verve68.0
InfluenceCurated cultural and peer influence tier.Level
The Stone Roses72.0
The Verve72.0
LongevityActive years, persistence and legacy after the first peak.Level
The Stone Roses73.0
The Verve73.0
PeakHow dominant the strongest era felt relative to peers.Level
The Stone Roses72.0
The Verve72.0

Context only · zero weight

Useful context, outside this verdict

These gaps are visible for the debate, but they do not count until you raise their sliders or choose another view.

CommercialCommercial tier, sales evidence, certifications and scale.Not comparable
The Stone RosesN/A
The VerveN/A
LiveLive/touring reputation and durable concert draw.Not comparable
The Stone RosesN/A
The VerveN/A

Keep arguing

Best next moves

FAQ

The Stone Roses vs The Verve questions

The Stone Roses or The Verve: who leads the All-Time score?

Yes: The Stone Roses leads by <0.1 points. The published score is 71.50 vs 71.45; unavailable values remain N/A and are never scored as zero.

What is the biggest active category edge in The Stone Roses vs The Verve?

Public attention is the biggest available active edge, with a 1.0-point gap for The Stone Roses.

Can the answer change?

Yes, when you change available score parts. A formula that gives positive weight to unavailable Commercial or Live evidence is rejected rather than silently rewritten.

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